Huge Learning At SA S Anon Marathon Meeting
I just returned home from a joint SA and S Anon marathon meeting, which basically is a day and half of intensive meetings. I loved the concept and the joint effort. My husband got to attend his first open S Anon meeting and see what I experience and I got to see and hear from SA’s and see how they respond. It was an eye opening experience for both of us.
It was wonderful to be in a group of people knowing that EVERY single one of us was dealing with the same thing. Although at RCA conferences we know that everyone is in recovery and dealing with addiction, you never really know which addiction someone is coping with unless they share it.
But here at this meeting, every one of us was dealing with the sex addiction and the effects of it. There were people from the entire spectrum of the recovery process from brand new and this being their first meeting to over twenty years of sobriety and recovery. There was so much for me to learn but also a lot for me to teach.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
There were some revelations that my husband and I experienced. There was healing for both of us and our marriage. There was companionship, fellowship, understanding and growth. It was wonderful.
We took the time to spend off meeting time with another couple from our local meeting. We bonded even more than we had already. We were support for each other and we got to be “normal” for a time being as well. Our relationship has blossomed past recovery into genuine friendship. What an amazing gift that is for all of us. We have so few friends and nobody else that knows our lives and our true relationships like we do for each other. Absolute true intimacy.
We had dinner together and discussed what we each were taking away. I took away a huge ah ha moment.
In one meeting a member shared something that jumped at a me like nothing else has ever before. It was so crystal clear that I wondered why I had not realized this before.
We were discussing anger and rage. We discussed our backgrounds and many of us came from alcoholic families. We learned rage behavior from our families. We learned that it was powerful and commanded attention. One member shared that she was told by someone not to rage when her husband acted out because her husband would view her rage as his punishment. Once the raging had subsided, then he had paid his penance and he had endured his punishment. He was now off scott free.
I remembered how if I did not rage when my husband had behaved badly, he would purposely pick a fight to enrage me. He knew how to get me from zero to one hundred so fast. He knew how to pick a fight that get me out of control angry. No matter how many times I tried to be rational and discuss solutions to obvious problems, he would have to get me so mad. I could never understand why. Now I do.
I remember the first time he broke sobriety and acted out. I told him after his confession that I could listen to him but I was not able to speak. I needed to process my thoughts before I was able to discuss this. I told him that I needed to get help from my support group.
Instead of seeing this as a genuine responsible and authentic way of dealing with a crisis, he kept attacking me verbally until I lost all ability to control my rage and anger. I blew up and started screaming and yelling being totally out of control and hysterical.
Now I realize that if I did not inflict his punishment and become enraged by his actions, that he would have to take responsibility for his own actions and consequences and that was not something he was used to doing.
How obvious it seems in retrospect. I wish that I had of known that one of reasons that recovery works so well is that it teaches us to opt out of this dysfunctional dance that has been created. Once we change how we react, then they have to change how they deal with their own behaviors.
I can’t imagine that I could ever lose my temper again after learning this information.
I am actually considering now attending the joint SA /S Anon International Conference being held in New Jersey this January. I had originally thought that this was not something for me that it was only applicable to my husband but after this marathon meeting, I am seriously considering attending with him.
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Tags: anger, effects of rage, rage, RCA, recovery, s anon, Sexaholics Anonymous, sexual addiction
First let me just say Thank You! I came across your blog a few days ago and have been reading through your posts. I really appreciate the courage you have in expressing yourself so openly and freely. I have been wanting to start a blog but have always talked myself out of it. Now…I am inspired. Reading your story I realize that life is filled with those “Ah,Ha” moments and we need only quiet ourselves so we may see and hear them.When you said, “I wish that I had of known that one of reasons that recovery works so well is that it teaches us to opt out of this dysfunctional dance that has been created” I remembered something I read recently: We hear and see things when we are ready, in our own time. Had you known then, you most likely would not have been ready to truly hear it and take from it what you have right now. In the past I have looked back and asked, Why didn’t I see it then or why didn’t I know better? The answer is simply… I was not ready. Thank you again, I will comment more soon.
Thanks for the insight. You are probably dead on right. I was probably not ready for the message but am sure glad that I got it now.
Welcome to my world. I wish you all the best. Thank you for your comments.
Mysa
the conventions are awesome! we go to all the summer ones and our hesistancy is the cold.. but we’ll be at the sa/s-anon convention in summer 2012 they are great I’ve been to 6 or 7 I’ve lost count… I love the joint speakers and its been a huge part of my recovery we go to 2 marathons a year sometimes 3 – and at least one SA/S-Anon convention along with RCA has been wonderful…
TJ,
You are really working the program and looks like you are reaping the benefits of it. Isn’t the summer the convention this year on the west coast? I am considering going to New Jersey in January but we will see if I can make it work logistically. I love RCA and all it brings to our marriage.
Mysa
I believe that was last year in Portland – I’m pretty sure its Nasvhille this year and we plan on going.
II stumbled across this blog while looking for online meetings. After reading some of your entries, I want to express the deep concern that I have about the specific sharing of details, as well as the specific naming of a program that I am personally involved in. Your descriotions have certainly provided enough personal information about yourself, your partner and specific events in meetings to possibly identify yourself, your partner, your general area, as well as specific meetings and other participants.
While this type of writing may be personally healing, as well as helpful to others, I strongly feel that it is at the cost of many of the Traditions of our program. In one of your postings, you expressed concern that your sharing may influence others’ ideas about our program as a whole. Not only do I agree with your instinct, I will add that you have influenced me, personally, and jeopardized the emotional safety and sense of protection that the Traditions have provided me. I am, as others who read here probably are, concerned that what I say or do in a meeting may end up being described in a public forum or blog. I encourage you to work with a sponsor or other trusted member of you group and find ways of expressing yourself without revealing the specific details of any particular program or person–including the name of your blog.,
For anyone reading here, if you are affected by someone else’s sexual behavior, I encourage you to seek recovery for yourself by reading information and contacting the S-Anon World Service office at http://www.sanon.org They will provide a personal email or phone contact who can answer your questions and provide a schedule of local meetings.
To the author: I wish you well and hope that you will continue on your path…
Dear Bozo,
While I thank you for your comments, I respectfully disagree with your thoughts. I speak about and from my personal point of view, my insights, my journey and my experiences. I do not name anyone, do not identify anyone nor would I ever jeopardize anyone’s anonymity. I thank you for adding an additional link to sanon.org as I have done in many of my posts.
I listened to Patrick Carnes speak at the last RCA conference in Phoenix and he begged us to reach out, be more inclusive, to help heal addiction which he believes is the biggest source of danger to our society as we know it. I agree. The plague of addiction needs to be seriously addressed. Patrick Carnes begged us to not hide behind anonymity instead of respecting the greater good of healing all. I believe in his meaning and his words.
While I believe that I am maintaining my personal anonymity, there are those who are in the program that are aware of who I am and what I am doing. If I choose to identify myself, that is my business.
I wish you all the healing and support that this program offers. I would suggest that you do not continue to read my blog which is clearly named as my sanon recovery path as it has affected you in a negative way. Or maybe God brought you here for an insight and learning that you are ready for as well. Only you and your HP know.
Mysa
PS. This blog started as a personal journal, a personal way for me to cope and process my pain. I believe that it has expanded into service work and a true living step of Step 12 – Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to others and practice these principles in all our affairs. I believe this by the number of people who read my blog daily, who subscribe to each blog post and those who are brave enough to comment. Each of us offers something for others and if not, anyone is free to take what they want and leave the rest.
I also believe that my blog also addresses Tradition 5 to help families of sexaholics and Tradition 11 that public relations is based on attraction not promotion.
While I would love to debate your points on Traditions, it is clear that you are intentionally associating yourself with a trademark-protected organization–wothout the consent of that organization. If you are confident in your position that you are not breaking traditions, then just submit all of your existing posts and blog title to the S-Anon literature review board for conference approval. Your story is your story–feel to share, not share–don’t really care. Stop sharing MY story by specifically referencing MY specific program and what occurs between closed doors, ANONYMOUSLY..
I believe that was last summer.. I’m pretty sure it is Nashville this summer and we are going to that one. This past year it was Portland we went to COSA/SAA instead.
TJ,
You are right. We are planning on doing the SA/SAnon conference, taking a vacation and then going to the RCA seeing as they are so close and just one weekend apart. Maybe we will see you at one or both of them.
Mysa
Mysa we will be at both.. so see you at both…
Bozo…This is a blog by a very caring individual and it does not break anonymity at all. I am also involved in the programs offered for this addiction and Mysa’s insight has been helpful, never has she posted in malice or trying to inflict anything other than her honesty about herself and her situation …as they say…take what you need and leave the rest.